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ALPS Mountaineering tents
This spring, our troop was in need of some new tents since we had gained 20 new scouts and some tents were wearing out.
I checked around the Net and found ScoutDirect.com which sells ALPS Mountaineering tents. We ordered some 4-man and 2-man Taurus tents with fiberglass poles. Aluminum poles are lighter, but more fragile and much more expensive.
I just spent 14 nights in a 2-man Taurus backpacking in Wyoming. 7 nights were with another adult leader on our scout trek, then 7 nights were with my son on a church youth group trek - his patrol let us borrow the tent.
I've got to give a great big Thumbs Up to the ALPS Taurus tent. On these treks, there were Eurekas, Keltys, and some other tents. The rainfly on the ALPS comes completely to the ground which has a few great benefits:
We had a strong, short hail storm - you might see the white hail on the ground in the photo. But, we also had a 10 hour rainstorm all night. The ALPS kept us and our gear in the vestibules dry, while the other tents got wet inside from blowing rain.
Another impressive thing about the ALPS tents is that they go up with just clips - no sleeves to slide poles through. My son and I timed ourselves and it took just 3 minutes 14 seconds to erect the tent from being bagged to completely staked out with rainfly. There are just two poles and no third pole for the rainfly so it is a very simple, sturdy set up.
What don't I like? Well, there's a little plastic window in the rainfly so you can look out from the inside - I could do without that since it just means more seams to possibly leak. But, the scouts like it. And, I wish there was green or tan colors, but it just comes in blue unless you double the price up to the Outfitter style in tan.
Have your Troop Quartermaster take a look at your tent inventory this fall and then check out ScoutDirect.com to see what they offer.
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I checked around the Net and found ScoutDirect.com which sells ALPS Mountaineering tents. We ordered some 4-man and 2-man Taurus tents with fiberglass poles. Aluminum poles are lighter, but more fragile and much more expensive.
I just spent 14 nights in a 2-man Taurus backpacking in Wyoming. 7 nights were with another adult leader on our scout trek, then 7 nights were with my son on a church youth group trek - his patrol let us borrow the tent.
I've got to give a great big Thumbs Up to the ALPS Taurus tent. On these treks, there were Eurekas, Keltys, and some other tents. The rainfly on the ALPS comes completely to the ground which has a few great benefits:
- The inside tent never gets hit by rain, unless it splatters up from hitting rocks on the ground.
- Strong wind whips around the tent instead of turning the fly into a big sail.
- The fly creates a large vestibule on both sides for dry storage of gear you might need at night.
We had a strong, short hail storm - you might see the white hail on the ground in the photo. But, we also had a 10 hour rainstorm all night. The ALPS kept us and our gear in the vestibules dry, while the other tents got wet inside from blowing rain.
Another impressive thing about the ALPS tents is that they go up with just clips - no sleeves to slide poles through. My son and I timed ourselves and it took just 3 minutes 14 seconds to erect the tent from being bagged to completely staked out with rainfly. There are just two poles and no third pole for the rainfly so it is a very simple, sturdy set up.
What don't I like? Well, there's a little plastic window in the rainfly so you can look out from the inside - I could do without that since it just means more seams to possibly leak. But, the scouts like it. And, I wish there was green or tan colors, but it just comes in blue unless you double the price up to the Outfitter style in tan.
Have your Troop Quartermaster take a look at your tent inventory this fall and then check out ScoutDirect.com to see what they offer.
Scout On
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Posted: 10:31 08-09-2007 162
Backpacking There and Back
Well, two weeks later and 8 pounds lighter, I'm back. :-)
What a terrific trek through a bit of Wyoming with a great crew. All 8 scouts got a good start on the Backpacking merit badge requirements and they expect to finish it next year with their Philmont trek being the grand finale.
The crew set the summit of Cloud Peak at 13,167 as the main goal of the trek. Everyone reached that goal, some having an easy time of it and others digging deep to find the endurance to keep going. We only got to enjoy the summit for about 5 minutes before the clouds dropped and we had to slowly creeep down to 12,000 feet before getting out of the clouds. After that, it was much better. The entire day hike took 12 hours, which is about 4 hours longer than normal.
The next day, we were scheduled to hike most of the way out and spend one more night in the woods. But, since we had 11 hours of rain all night and it was still dreary, the crew elected to hike 12 miles out for showers and a campground.
There was a great amount of leadership, cooperation, and support demonstrated on this trek. A couple scouts that tend to take a back seat stepped up, while I learned about some areas for improvement for a couple of Life scouts.
I'd be happy to share our itinerary with anyone that's interested - just send me an email.
You can see photos of our trek at: Bighorns Backpacking
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What a terrific trek through a bit of Wyoming with a great crew. All 8 scouts got a good start on the Backpacking merit badge requirements and they expect to finish it next year with their Philmont trek being the grand finale.
The crew set the summit of Cloud Peak at 13,167 as the main goal of the trek. Everyone reached that goal, some having an easy time of it and others digging deep to find the endurance to keep going. We only got to enjoy the summit for about 5 minutes before the clouds dropped and we had to slowly creeep down to 12,000 feet before getting out of the clouds. After that, it was much better. The entire day hike took 12 hours, which is about 4 hours longer than normal.
The next day, we were scheduled to hike most of the way out and spend one more night in the woods. But, since we had 11 hours of rain all night and it was still dreary, the crew elected to hike 12 miles out for showers and a campground.
There was a great amount of leadership, cooperation, and support demonstrated on this trek. A couple scouts that tend to take a back seat stepped up, while I learned about some areas for improvement for a couple of Life scouts.
I'd be happy to share our itinerary with anyone that's interested - just send me an email.
You can see photos of our trek at: Bighorns Backpacking
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Posted: 17:03 08-06-2007 161
2 Week Vacation
Tomorrow we leave for two weeks of backpacking. We had a pack check-in and distribution of crew gear and food on Wednesday.
My pack weighed in at 51 pounds! After going through it two more times and dropping out shirts, socks, trail mix, and exchanging my sleeping pad, its now down to 44. I have a tent, 15 pounds of food, and other crew gear that totals about 25 pounds. Since I also have to carry a camera, medical forms, permits, ... it adds up.
We have a few sub-100 pound scouts going on the trek so they can't carry nearly as much but we have food amounts based on 150 pound people. I don't mind picking up the slack - my pack at Philmont grew to 65 pounds by the end of that trek. This time, it should get lighter, especially after Tuesday's lunch which is the first meal I'm carrying. I expect we'll probably have too much food at meals so I'll be the garbage disposal.
We have the rental van ready - it's white. Dry-erase markers are great fun to write on vans. You can really customize your ride and then it wipes right off. White's a good color for the prairies this time of year too. It's supposed to be 105 in Wall, SD when we drive through tomorrow!
The weather forecast for the Buffalo, Wyoming area is high 90s and 18-25% humidity with a low probability of scattered rain all next week. I hope they're right! We will attempt to summit Cloud Peak on Wednesday and that is forecast to be practically perfect.
So, I'll be back online in 2 weeks.
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My pack weighed in at 51 pounds! After going through it two more times and dropping out shirts, socks, trail mix, and exchanging my sleeping pad, its now down to 44. I have a tent, 15 pounds of food, and other crew gear that totals about 25 pounds. Since I also have to carry a camera, medical forms, permits, ... it adds up.
We have a few sub-100 pound scouts going on the trek so they can't carry nearly as much but we have food amounts based on 150 pound people. I don't mind picking up the slack - my pack at Philmont grew to 65 pounds by the end of that trek. This time, it should get lighter, especially after Tuesday's lunch which is the first meal I'm carrying. I expect we'll probably have too much food at meals so I'll be the garbage disposal.
We have the rental van ready - it's white. Dry-erase markers are great fun to write on vans. You can really customize your ride and then it wipes right off. White's a good color for the prairies this time of year too. It's supposed to be 105 in Wall, SD when we drive through tomorrow!
The weather forecast for the Buffalo, Wyoming area is high 90s and 18-25% humidity with a low probability of scattered rain all next week. I hope they're right! We will attempt to summit Cloud Peak on Wednesday and that is forecast to be practically perfect.
So, I'll be back online in 2 weeks.
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Posted: 21:01 07-20-2007 160
Backpacking, Anyone?
We have a crew of 8 scouts and 2 adults traveling to Wyoming to backpack in the Cloud Peak Wilderness Area, leaving this Saturday!
Last night was our last training meeting, reviewing map and compass as well as the first aid topics of dehydration, hypothermia, and altitude sickness. For us flatlanders at around 1000 feet, going up to 13000 can cause some problems.
This crew has done a terrific job of preparing for the trek! The scout in charge just got back from our council's week-long leader training course called Grey Wolf and he's done great work in organizing the preparations. We've done 5 10-mile hikes for the Hiking merit badge as well as 5 4-mile hikes. One scout located and reserved a campground for the drive out and back at Mountain View Campground. Another designed and ordered crew t-shirts online at CustomInk.com. Two more created the menu and purchased the food - they are doing the repackaging tomorrow.
We have our final pack check and distribution of crew gear tomorrow night.
For my part, I dried about 40 pounds of bananas, apples, cantaloupe, and strawberries in our dehydrator. :-) I also did a couple pounds of hamburger for adding to our spaghetti dinner - first time for that and it seemed to turn out great.
It looks like the total cost per scout will be about $275 for the 7 day trip, including rental of a van. That includes the complete cost for the adults, too. If you'd like a breakdown of our expenses, just send me an email and I'll get it to you when we return.
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Last night was our last training meeting, reviewing map and compass as well as the first aid topics of dehydration, hypothermia, and altitude sickness. For us flatlanders at around 1000 feet, going up to 13000 can cause some problems.
This crew has done a terrific job of preparing for the trek! The scout in charge just got back from our council's week-long leader training course called Grey Wolf and he's done great work in organizing the preparations. We've done 5 10-mile hikes for the Hiking merit badge as well as 5 4-mile hikes. One scout located and reserved a campground for the drive out and back at Mountain View Campground. Another designed and ordered crew t-shirts online at CustomInk.com. Two more created the menu and purchased the food - they are doing the repackaging tomorrow.
We have our final pack check and distribution of crew gear tomorrow night.
For my part, I dried about 40 pounds of bananas, apples, cantaloupe, and strawberries in our dehydrator. :-) I also did a couple pounds of hamburger for adding to our spaghetti dinner - first time for that and it seemed to turn out great.
It looks like the total cost per scout will be about $275 for the 7 day trip, including rental of a van. That includes the complete cost for the adults, too. If you'd like a breakdown of our expenses, just send me an email and I'll get it to you when we return.
Scout On
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Posted: 12:51 07-17-2007 159
Back from Camp
The troop spent last week at Many Point Scout Camp. After one big lightning/rain storm on Monday night, the rest of the week's weather was practically perfect for camping. Waking up to see your breath in the morning and warming up into the mid-70s in the day. Just a little too cool for many water activities though.
This was the first year our troop has used the dining hall - we've always cooked our own food in the past. Wow! just like a vacation! No messy campsites, no critters, really good food, and plenty of it. It was so nice that the troop has decided to use the dining hall again next year.
The down side of the dining hall is that scouts can't take the Cooking merit badge and don't develop cooking skills. So, next year's schedule is including lots of cooking the other months to make up for it. This summer, the new scouts will not cook from April until the end of August which doesn't help their advancement.
Some scouts working on the Communications merit badge planned a terrific troop campfire one night with lots of new stories, skits, and songs. "If I Werent a Scouter" was the favorite.
The 15 first year scouts that attended camp all took the Leatherwork and Basketry merit badges with most of them completing their projects. Now, that's a lot of baskets accumulating around the campsite!
We also had a lot of scouts earn their Totin' Chit and a few earned the Firem'n Chip card. We tear off a corner of the Totin' Chit to start and burn off a corner of the Firem'n Chip. Then, any infractions result in tearing or burning off another corner - when they're gone, the scout needs to go through the training again to refresh his understanding.
The troop also learned a new, simple way to make rope so I expect we'll see that at a troop meeting some time in the coming winter. That would be a good Webelos recruiting activity, I bet.
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This was the first year our troop has used the dining hall - we've always cooked our own food in the past. Wow! just like a vacation! No messy campsites, no critters, really good food, and plenty of it. It was so nice that the troop has decided to use the dining hall again next year.
The down side of the dining hall is that scouts can't take the Cooking merit badge and don't develop cooking skills. So, next year's schedule is including lots of cooking the other months to make up for it. This summer, the new scouts will not cook from April until the end of August which doesn't help their advancement.
Some scouts working on the Communications merit badge planned a terrific troop campfire one night with lots of new stories, skits, and songs. "If I Werent a Scouter" was the favorite.
The 15 first year scouts that attended camp all took the Leatherwork and Basketry merit badges with most of them completing their projects. Now, that's a lot of baskets accumulating around the campsite!
We also had a lot of scouts earn their Totin' Chit and a few earned the Firem'n Chip card. We tear off a corner of the Totin' Chit to start and burn off a corner of the Firem'n Chip. Then, any infractions result in tearing or burning off another corner - when they're gone, the scout needs to go through the training again to refresh his understanding.
The troop also learned a new, simple way to make rope so I expect we'll see that at a troop meeting some time in the coming winter. That would be a good Webelos recruiting activity, I bet.
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Posted: 23:51 07-16-2007 158
Trail Built
Wow, that was hot! We had 95 degree days swinging pulaskis, mattocks, and rakes. The scouts put in 10 hours of work and completed about 600 feet of trail out of 2.4 million feet in the entire trail. So, we did our .025% of the trail. :-)
We drove to the trailhead and hiked in about 1/2 mile, following blue painted blazes on trees along a barely discernable trail and carrying our tools, water, and lunch food. The mosquitos and flies were thick, the humidity was high, and it was hot!
We were shown where the existing trail headed straight up a steep hill and the need to reroute the trail along the side of the hill to keep within the grade guidelines. Then, we spend the next two days cutting out brush, digging out rocks and stumps, and creating a trail tread from scratch. It was slow, hard work but we completed the reroute and cleared another few hundred feet of overgrowth.
The trip itself was a great time. After working until 1:00pm, we got to wash off in the cool, very clear waters of Bad Medicine Lake at the High Pines resort run by Ray Vlasak. Ray works in the Laurentian Lakes chapter of the North Country Scenic Trail Association, taking charge of completing and maintaining the trail in the area west of Itasca State Park.
In the evenings, with no planned program and tired bodies, we tried a lot of dutch oven recipes from Dutch Oven Dude and relaxed with a campfire.
This turned out to be a wonderful experience for a small group of mature scouts ready to work. The tools are heavy and smaller scouts would probably not accomplish much. I'm hoping to do this again in future years as a team-building trip before summer camp for the troop leaders.
Scout On
We drove to the trailhead and hiked in about 1/2 mile, following blue painted blazes on trees along a barely discernable trail and carrying our tools, water, and lunch food. The mosquitos and flies were thick, the humidity was high, and it was hot!
We were shown where the existing trail headed straight up a steep hill and the need to reroute the trail along the side of the hill to keep within the grade guidelines. Then, we spend the next two days cutting out brush, digging out rocks and stumps, and creating a trail tread from scratch. It was slow, hard work but we completed the reroute and cleared another few hundred feet of overgrowth.
The trip itself was a great time. After working until 1:00pm, we got to wash off in the cool, very clear waters of Bad Medicine Lake at the High Pines resort run by Ray Vlasak. Ray works in the Laurentian Lakes chapter of the North Country Scenic Trail Association, taking charge of completing and maintaining the trail in the area west of Itasca State Park.
In the evenings, with no planned program and tired bodies, we tried a lot of dutch oven recipes from Dutch Oven Dude and relaxed with a campfire.
This turned out to be a wonderful experience for a small group of mature scouts ready to work. The tools are heavy and smaller scouts would probably not accomplish much. I'm hoping to do this again in future years as a team-building trip before summer camp for the troop leaders.
Scout On
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Posted: 10:42 07-15-2007 157
Trail Building
Sorry for the lack of posts - we just returned from our family vacation in northern Minnesota. Another year without catching a muskie. But, my youngest son has gotten hooked on flyfishing so I have high hopes of him rounding up a couple guys to do the flyfishing merit badge!
On Thursday, we have a group of 6 scouts and 2 adults heading out for a 3-day trip of trail building on the North Country Trail that will run from North Dakota to Maine when it is completed. This is our first time doing this, so we are excited to see what we've gotten ourselves in for. At least, we'll each get a patch for our efforts. :-)
We're running it much like a trek crew with all of us acting as a single patrol. Since we have evenings with no real program, there's lots of dutch oven meals on the menu.
The various scouts will use their work hours towards different awards - rank advancement, Leave No Trace, and 50-Miler. I'm hoping it's a good experience and we have more scouts involved next year, and maybe someone working towards a Hornaday soon.
I'm afraid the posts will be sparse over the next month. With scout camp and two backpacking trips, I'll let you know how it goes. I hope you all have a safe and adventurous summer.
Scout On!
On Thursday, we have a group of 6 scouts and 2 adults heading out for a 3-day trip of trail building on the North Country Trail that will run from North Dakota to Maine when it is completed. This is our first time doing this, so we are excited to see what we've gotten ourselves in for. At least, we'll each get a patch for our efforts. :-)
We're running it much like a trek crew with all of us acting as a single patrol. Since we have evenings with no real program, there's lots of dutch oven meals on the menu.
The various scouts will use their work hours towards different awards - rank advancement, Leave No Trace, and 50-Miler. I'm hoping it's a good experience and we have more scouts involved next year, and maybe someone working towards a Hornaday soon.
I'm afraid the posts will be sparse over the next month. With scout camp and two backpacking trips, I'll let you know how it goes. I hope you all have a safe and adventurous summer.
Scout On!
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Posted: 0:05 07-04-2007 156
Scouting Article
AmericanProfile.com has an article on Scouting, including bits about the upcoming Centennial, Good Turn for America, and historic items.
Nice to see some positive press for the BSA. The first reader comment is about the article - from there on, it's just the usual noise about gay/atheist policy.
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Nice to see some positive press for the BSA. The first reader comment is about the article - from there on, it's just the usual noise about gay/atheist policy.
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Posted: 14:11 06-22-2007 155
Merit Badge Survey
The official BSA national site has a merit badge survey for Scouts and MB Counselors. Please take a few minutes and give them your input.
Check out Merit Badge Survey
I took the counselor survey and read through the scout survey. It sure looks to me, from the wording of the questions, like someone is attempting to justify podcast and video production. Those are cool things, but I don't think they promote the adult interaction concept of scouting. I'd rather have my son converse with a real person than watch a video on the Internet.
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Check out Merit Badge Survey
I took the counselor survey and read through the scout survey. It sure looks to me, from the wording of the questions, like someone is attempting to justify podcast and video production. Those are cool things, but I don't think they promote the adult interaction concept of scouting. I'd rather have my son converse with a real person than watch a video on the Internet.
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Posted: 10:13 06-21-2007 154
Scout Camp CIT
CIT - Counselor in Training
Today I get to drive my oldest son to Many Point Scout Camp for a 5-week session as a CIT. He's been looking forward to this for a long time and hopes to be hired on for the second 5-week session as regular staff.
I see it as a longer-term opportunity to team up with other high-caliber scouts such as he met during his 1-week NYLT camp last summer. It's good to meet and interact with scouts other than those in the same patrol that you've been with for years.
He spent most of yesterday laying out his gear, checking it, and packing it up. I think the most important item he's taking is the small bottle of detergent! :-)
I'm giving rides to 3 other CITs from around the area so that's my Good Deed for the day.
Happy Fathers Day!
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Today I get to drive my oldest son to Many Point Scout Camp for a 5-week session as a CIT. He's been looking forward to this for a long time and hopes to be hired on for the second 5-week session as regular staff.
I see it as a longer-term opportunity to team up with other high-caliber scouts such as he met during his 1-week NYLT camp last summer. It's good to meet and interact with scouts other than those in the same patrol that you've been with for years.
He spent most of yesterday laying out his gear, checking it, and packing it up. I think the most important item he's taking is the small bottle of detergent! :-)
I'm giving rides to 3 other CITs from around the area so that's my Good Deed for the day.
Happy Fathers Day!
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Posted: 9:18 06-17-2007 153
Philmont Wilderness First Aid Requirement
Are you going to Philmont in 2008? If so, be sure to read your Philmont 2008 Planning Guide closely and especially notice the requirement on page 3:
Philmont requires that at least one person, preferably two, (either an advisor or a youth participant) in each crew be currently certified in American Red Cross Wilderness First Aid or the equivalent and CPR from the American Heart Association, the American Red Cross or the equivalent. You must present current certification cards upon check in to verify this requirement.
I'm glad to see the requirement. It will ensure each crew has at least some exposure to self-sufficiency in an injury or emergency situation. Unfortunately, the requirement means an additional 16 hours of training at a cost of somewhere between $50 and $200 per certification, depending on where you get the training. So, you might want to plan that additional cost into your trek expenses. Fortunately, the certification is good for 3 years.
I'm an authorized Red Cross instructor of CPR and First Aid and will be authorized to present the Wilderness First Aid at the end of this summer. Hopefully, I can help troops meet this requirement and provide a safer high adventure environment.
Scout On!
Philmont requires that at least one person, preferably two, (either an advisor or a youth participant) in each crew be currently certified in American Red Cross Wilderness First Aid or the equivalent and CPR from the American Heart Association, the American Red Cross or the equivalent. You must present current certification cards upon check in to verify this requirement.
I'm glad to see the requirement. It will ensure each crew has at least some exposure to self-sufficiency in an injury or emergency situation. Unfortunately, the requirement means an additional 16 hours of training at a cost of somewhere between $50 and $200 per certification, depending on where you get the training. So, you might want to plan that additional cost into your trek expenses. Fortunately, the certification is good for 3 years.
I'm an authorized Red Cross instructor of CPR and First Aid and will be authorized to present the Wilderness First Aid at the end of this summer. Hopefully, I can help troops meet this requirement and provide a safer high adventure environment.
Scout On!
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Posted: 20:59 06-15-2007 152
Graduations
We've had an exchange student from Brazil staying with us the past few months. This past week had us participating in high school graduation ceremonies, graduation open houses, and an all-night senior party at which I got volunteered to help with security in the wee hours of the morning. So, sorry for no blog entries.
We have been doing some hikes for the Hiking merit badge, though. A group of about 6 scouts are working their way through the 5 10-mile hikes and trip plans. On Saturday, we'll do another one. These have been a lot of fun with a new location being explored for each hike.
Hey, if you don't have one yet, I'd recommend asking for a Boy Scout Fieldbook for Father's Day. It expands on information in the Scout Handbook and Passport to High Adventure. I'm asking each scout in our trek crew to read the relevant sections.
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We have been doing some hikes for the Hiking merit badge, though. A group of about 6 scouts are working their way through the 5 10-mile hikes and trip plans. On Saturday, we'll do another one. These have been a lot of fun with a new location being explored for each hike.
Hey, if you don't have one yet, I'd recommend asking for a Boy Scout Fieldbook for Father's Day. It expands on information in the Scout Handbook and Passport to High Adventure. I'm asking each scout in our trek crew to read the relevant sections.
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Posted: 17:15 06-14-2007 151
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Feb 25, 2023 - Joe Patterson
Just out of curiosity, are the Rockwell paintings on exhibit anywhere
Mar 16, 2023 - Adam John
Great question Joe! Have you checked out the Norman Rockwell Museum in
Stockbridge MA? (nrm.org) There is also the Rockwell Museum in Corning
NY. (rockwellmuseum.org) I believe the latter has more art. Hope this
helps!
Jan 21, 2024 - Johnna Downing
The Scouting museum at Philmont, Cimmaron, NM hopefully has the ones that
used to hang at the museum in Irving, TX. Good luck. Johnna
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