Dec 02, 2012 - Mike
My son's Tiger den is going to start working towards completing our "Leave No Trace" award and I was wondering if anyone had examples of service projects that other Tiger dens have participated in.
Dec 08, 2012 - Scouter Paul
Mike - pick up garbage at school, church, beach, campsites, park, ...
Plant trees or remove invasive plants. Gather wild prairie grass seed. Remove weeds from trails.
Contact a local nature center, park and rec dept., USFS, US Fish & Wildlife, DNR, or other nature organization to see what help they need.
Picking up trash is probably the most common thing done for conservation/LNT projects.
Mar 11, 2013 - Greg
Mike, a little late but may help. We were lucky to have a triathlon at the same county park as our pack camping weekend. We volunteered at some of the hydration stations to pick up the used cups after the racers discarded the along the course. The tigers loved seeing and cheering on the athletes as well. After that we made a hike into the forest and picked up trash on the trails. There was not much out there, which was nice to see.
May 28, 2013 - DL Mike
I’ve got a great den of Tigers that have been working towards the LNT award, but we are running out of time before our “Move Up/Camp Out” where the boys are moved up to the wolf rank. Most of the boys will have met all of the requirements but I do have a few that won’t have the required amount of outings. My question is will the work that these scouts did to complete the following count towards their LNT badge or are they required to start all over?
Requirements met –
1. Discuss with your leader or parent/guardian the importance of the Leave No Trace frontcountry guidelines.
2. Participate in a Leave No Trace - related service project.
3. Promise to practice the Leave No Trace frontcountry guidelines by signing the Cub Scout Leave No Trace Pledge.
4. Draw a poster to illustrate the Leave No Trace frontcountry guidelines and display it at a pack meeting.
May 31, 2013 - Scouter Paul
@DL Mike - It's up to the den leader. Some dens complete the LNT requirements each year as part of their den program. If a scout didn't complete the requirements within one program year, I would have him start over during the next year. But, the poster is the only 'busy work' that might be redundant. The rest should be done ongoing as part of the scouting program.
Oct 12, 2013 - Jeff
My Wolf Den is doing the LNT Award this year. What does the 2nd requirement mean? Is this having a Den meeting somewhere at a park, or playing a sport, then cleaning up afterwards and following the front country guidelines? Is the service project picking up trash at the H.S. after a football game? I am confused if there are 4 projects to do all together. Help please, and thanks for your time.
Oct 13, 2013 - Scouter Paul
@Jeff - Sure, all those things would fit. Maybe expanding the scouts' experience and going on a hike so they can stay on the trail, make room for other hikers, find a cool rock and leave it, have a snack and check that no garbage is left behind.
LNT is more intended for the natural areas, rather than a football stadium. Cleaning up a park, a trail, the area around their school, or other more natural space might make more sense for them.
The scout needs to do A service project related to LNT. The hope is that through earning this award, a scout begins to naturally follow LNT principles, not just at a specific LNT activity.
Oct 14, 2013 - Jeff
@Scouter Paul -
Thanks for clearing that up for me. Here is what I have planned:
1. Den Meeting: Explain and teach LNT Guidelines and Pledge
2. Neighborhood hike on trails, snack, LNT
3. Pack 2.5 mile hike on Fall Camp out, point out cool stuff (ie rocks, animals, leaves) but leave them where we found them, and, pick up any garbage along the hike.
4. Play kickball or another Belt Loop sport at one of the parks, then clean it up
5. Service project: Clean up the front and back of their Elementary School of all garbage, and return any school property (ie balls, sports equipment, etc) that was left out or lost in the woods behind the school
**What do you think of this plan?
Oct 14, 2013 - Scouter Paul
@Jeff - Sounds terrific to me!
Nov 12, 2013 - Nicole
Do Scouts have to re-earn the badge every year in order to have it on their uniform? I have a Scout who earned it as a Wolf and is now a Bear.
Nov 12, 2013 - Scouter Paul
@Nicole - No, the Cub Scout can display the earned patch centered on his right pocket whenever he'd like, as long as he is in Cub Scouts.
Leave No Trace should be part of your scouting program, not just something to do once to get a patch. So, every year, scouts should be reviewing and practicing the principles.
Feb 14, 2014 - Henri
I am a Bear Den Leader. The boys earned their Leave No Trace award last year as Wolves. We are constantly working on LNT principles, and the boys have fulfilled the requirements for LNT again this year as Bears.
My question is do they get another patch, is there a different patch or device, or is it up to the Pack to decide?
Thanks for any help you can give.
Feb 14, 2014 - Scouter Paul
@Henri - That's great to keep LNT in the minds of your scouts. It fits in nicely with the "ethical choices" that the BSA is all about.
There are small metal devices that can be purchased at your scout shop and affixed to the LNT patch (or pretty much any other award that can be earned multiple years). That might be more interesting, less expensive, and easier than yet another duplicate patch.
Mar 06, 2014 - Rick
My Advancement Coordinator just notified me that LNT patches were no longer available at our scout store. He said the program had been changed and no more patches would be available. I feel like I am pretty cognisant of new changes and such with BSA but I don't remember hearing about this change. I got on the BSA website and read about the new Outdoor Ethics Award and the Outdoor Ethics Action Award and they both seem similar but more in depth with LNT as they incorporate the same principles.
My question is what is the cut off date for LNT? Is there a grandfather rule? The information I found was patches are available until they run out. So does that mean if Scout store A has 200 patches, those scouts can continue LNT until then? Seems a bit disorganized but I must have missed something somewhere about the implementation.
Mar 06, 2014 - Yukon Jack
@ Rick. That's exactly how it works. Nearly every cancelled/consolidaed awards/programs are grandfathered for a time (maybe a year or so) and awarded 'until stock is gone'. Once stock is gone, that's it. They do try and time it so stock runs out before the final cancellation date
However, scout stores can transfer stock between them, so if your scout store people can call around and find some LNT Awareness Award (aka the cub one) patches, then good on ya! And yes, the new Outdoor Ethics Awards replace the LNT Awareness (cub) and LNT Achievement (boy) Awards. It's all part of the BSA's current kick of eliminating and consolidating awards/insignia. Good luck.
Mar 13, 2014 - derek
i checked today and was told there are only 200 patchs left nationally , so it is prety much discontinued
Mar 20, 2014 - Rob Huddleston
So if the LNT has been discontinued, how are Bears supposed to earn the related Outdoor Activity Award, which requires that they first earn the LNT?
And a rhetorical question: why does the BSA keep discontinuing awards without first updating requirements for related awards? It's so frustrating...
Mar 20, 2014 - Scouter Paul
@Rob - The scouts can still fulfill the requirements without purchasing the patch.
Apr 28, 2014 - Catherine
I am a certified LNT Trainer and I didn't even know that the LNT Awareness Award for Cubs was discontinued until today when I went to pick up the awards for my pack. We've been working on it all year and it is frustrating to find out that while they can get the Outdoor Ethics patch instead, it does not recognize the program they completed.
Yes, the kids can work on programs that don't have patches - but that's not the point. They started in a program and they've already seen what they were working toward, which should come with a patch. When we emphasize achievements so heavily with patches, badges, pins, loops, etc. - it is frustrating to not be able to present the award/patch that was achieved.
Besides that - there was nothing wrong with that program, no need to change it. It took time and commitment to achieve. While so many other programs are changing (and I agree many need changing), I disagree with this one.
Aug 23, 2014 - Joe
@Catherine I totally agree with you. I am a LNT Master Educator and have been trying to get somethings changed by contacting national, though as you would expect they are always slow to get back to me and don't really think there is an issue.
Their reasoning is that with the new program coming out in June 2015, that LNT is more incorporated into the program and most the requirements as they stand are included in rank requirments.
You can read more about the new award here:
Though if you want to have LNT more of a force in the BSA contact National.
Nov 15, 2014 - HiKai Dad
Hi all, can someone clarify for me: if my Wolf scouts fulfill the LNT requirements at this moment in time, and I do acquire patches, can they still be worn? I haven't found an absolute end date, other than the fact that the award is discontinued. Thanks
Nov 15, 2014 - Scouter Paul
@HiKai - Why earn a discontinued award? Since you know the Outdoor Ethics awards are available and current, those are the ones the scouts should be earning.
A scout can wear pretty much any patch he wants in that temporary position on the right pocket. So, if you get him an old LNT patch and he wants to wear it, that's ok.
Nov 15, 2014 - HiKai Dad
@Scouter Paul - thanks for your response. The answer is logistical expedience. I started leading the den 3 months ago and started working on this, thinking this was still in force, relying on this page for info, but didn't see the word "discontinued" buried in the comments until a couple of weeks ago. This is also one of the requirements for the Hiking Pin that we're working on, so I was hoping to fulfill multiple requirements. Also, I'm not a big fan of the powerpoint/quiz/print certificate method of teaching, I'd rather be out and about. Both of my Scouts are first year Scouts, so I'd like to have them have something to show for the work that they're doing, and not waiting for the 2015 reboot to rework these extracurricular requirements. In 2015, I'll be more than happy to redo LNT/OE in the new format when they're Bears.
Nov 15, 2014 - HiKai Dad
Also, my local Council hasn't gotten back to me as to who the local designated/trained OE expert is.
Nov 22, 2014 - Joe
You should take a LNT Trainer course and become it yourself. You onlt have to take a minimum of a 101 course to become a facilitator.
As a Master Educator I'm having to deal with a lot of these problems and am not very happy about the lack of communication about the new award. Though I'm very excited about it and think it's a great change.
To find out more see the BSA and LNT website.
Nov 24, 2014 - John Simpson
LNT is a registered program and name with LNT.org and BSA did not want to pay for the use of it so they change the name to Outdoor Ethics.
I am a LNT Master Educator and the Outdoor Ethics Advocate with North Florida Council
Nov 27, 2014 - Joe
@John Simpson Where exactly did you get that information? That's great that your a ME and your councils advocate, I'm my council's professional advisor. That's not was explained to me in September by The Center, our state advocate, and Charlie Thorpe who is on the BSA Outdoor Ethics Task Force.
I highly doubt your explanation is the reason. They changed the name because they are including two other organizations, not just LNT. However LNT is STILL a very big part of BSA on all levels, though if your involved in Scouting you already know that.