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While redoing our Troop Guide guide with the 2010 advancement requirements, I noticed the Second Class cooking requirement (3g) no longer says "over an open fire". The Second Class rank does have a requirement (3f) to build a fire, but the fire does not need to be actually lit.

With those changes, it appears there can be an Eagle Scout that has never started a single fire. None of the rank advancements or eagle-required merit badges require that a fire be lit.

I understand the changes are because of fire bans in arid states, but somebody tell me I'm missing it someplace.

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Posted: 15:04 02-12-2010 480
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 Feb 12, 2010 - Kevin
That is very interesting, I'm sure that won't happen in most cases since you know we scouts like fire :)

Feb 12, 2010 - Scoutsigns
Build a fire wouldn't include lighting it?

I hadn't noticed the change though, so thanks for sharing.
Feb 12, 2010 - CJ
I hadn't noticed that either. I can't find any rank requirement that requires lighting a fire. I'm really surprised that Second Class 3f actually says "Note: lighting the fire is not required."
Feb 14, 2010 - Kevin
Obviosly none of you have experienced fire bans. here in CO we were under fire ban for 3-4 years, and have experienced scouts that dont have the opportunity to start a fire. You have to make adjustments, Build the firelay on a campout with material available, and light tinder in another location under safe conditions. The flame only has to be big enough to light a candle to experience lighting it.
Jul 08, 2010 - Larry Geiger
I for one am glad that the Scouts don't have to cook over an open fire as a requirement. We have been using Dutch Oven cooking on coals to meet this requirement for some time. Most Scouts do not have the equipment to really prepare a meal over an open fire (cast iron frying pan/oven, etc). We have a Dutch Oven in the troop they have used in the past. All meals are cooked on backpacking stoves (Pocket Rocket, etc) or camp stoves.

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